Talk:2023-05-31 Video - Alpha Two Cyclops Combat Preview
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Welcome to another live stream in the world of Vera.
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I am joined today by three glorious developers.
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We have quite a few of our developers are participating in today's live stream.
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I'm not going to go through everyone.
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You'll see their usernames, their game handles on the top left side and our RAID UI.
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But I have three amazing developers who are joining us today that have all taken part in helping to design the Cyclops and the combat that goes around it.
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I know you guys in the community have been very excited to kind of see today's demonstration.
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We're not going to get too elaborate in the designs of the Cyclops, right, because we don't want to spoil it for you.
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But just as a disclaimer, this is one of the very first World Raid bosses that will be available for players to participate in.
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So this is not super endgame, but it is going to give you some insight into how we're designing these encounters.
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And first up, we have one of our senior designers, Mr. Doug.
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How are you doing, Doug?
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Good evening.
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I'm doing pretty well.
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I'm excited to show this off.
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We've been working on it for a while.
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Yeah, I'm super excited for you guys to show it off, too.
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I know you guys have been hard at work on this one and a lot of other creatures.
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And this is your first time joining us on the stream, isn't that right?
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That is correct.
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I have not streamed before.
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Super exciting.
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We have a streamed version with us.
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Very cool.
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We also have with us one of our glorious senior technical designers, Mr. Jason.
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How are you doing, Jason?
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Hey, how's it going?
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And you are the, this one's your baby, right?
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This Cyclops was kind of your design.
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Yeah, been plucking away at him for a while.
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I remember the first time we chatted about this guy.
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You had such a great kind of premise for his backstory and the design elements of it.
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I thought it was super cool.
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I love the detaching tree, which our viewers are going to see in a little bit.
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So I'm super excited that you have an opportunity to kind of talk with the community about this
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and get their take on some of these designs.
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And then we have one of our regularly occurring senior designers on the combat side, Mr. Trad.
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How are you doing, Trad?
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Doing great.
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Good to be back as always.
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Yes, welcome.
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So we find ourselves here in the Riverlands.
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And it appears to be a winter time.
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It's beautiful.
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Actually, I really like it.
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So one of the first things I would love to chat with you guys about is kind of how you
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set up this particular raid boss, the Cyclops, in the Riverlands.
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Talk to me a little bit about his pathing.
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Like where does he live in the world?
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What's his backstory?
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Just tell me things about him.
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I think you could take this one, Jason.
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Yeah, like the Cyclops, his name is Tumak.
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And a long time ago, he is from the land of Sujoma.
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And that's where all the Cyclopses are from.
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He decided it would be a good idea to try to align himself with the Ancients that invaded
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Berra.
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And he took some of his followers to follow in his footsteps.
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And that didn't work out so well for him.
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He's the last remaining Cyclops of his people he took to try and join the Ancients.
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And the rest of his people exiled him for that and they didn't want him back.
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So he's all on his own and has paid for some of those mistakes of misaligning himself.
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Okay, so he's got a little bit of a backstory, some pain in there, maybe some betrayal.
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And I guess he turned against his fellow citizens of Berra.
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Where are you guys at, by the way?
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I know we have a couple of parties that are hanging back at the camp.
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Oh, there you guys are.
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Why don't you come join me over here?
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I want to talk a little about kind of his pathing and I noticed that there are also
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some winter spiders over here or something.
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What is going on over here?
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Yeah, so there are some giant spiders over here.
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And one thing that we'd like to demonstrate today is that not every enemy in Berra is
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going to just behave like they're a simple aggro immediately and beeline for you.
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The giant spider might not necessarily want to engage these scary looking adventurers.
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So he's going to stand off and hope that you back away.
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That's so creepy.
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I love the anim for this.
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So he's kind of not necessarily aggroing, but he's just like, don't come any closer.
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Like, back off, get away from me.
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He is kind of peacocking.
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I'm set to invulnerable because I want us to be able to kind of walk with the Cyclops
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as we see him start to path here.
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Wild animals, just not every single wild animal is going to immediately beeline for you.
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And so that's the kind of behavior we want to capture, some more ambient behaviors you
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might not expect to see in MMO.
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Maybe some creatures hunting each other, these kinds of more believable behaviors from wild
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animals.
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That's super cool.
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Oh, yeah, I like them.
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That's awesome.
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It adds an element of immersion, I feel like.
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If you do stay within their range or get too close to them, then they might defend themselves.
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That's super cool.
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So talk to me a little bit about the Cyclops and its path and how you guys kind of determine
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where this guy's going to roam and why it's an important aspect that the boss is kind
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of roaming through the woods or through the world.
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Yeah, so we work with the world team to decide what that path is going to be.
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And we want to make sure that there's something of interest, no matter where you go.
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That you don't become vulnerable just in case, I'm sorry.
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Go ahead.
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You're good.
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Yeah, no matter where you look, no matter what path you go down, that there's always
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a chance you're going to see something you didn't expect or you didn't see before.
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So I love this guy.
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He's so massive.
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And I like how he kind of walks through the trees, triggering their destruction.
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That's so cool that he interacts with the environment like that.
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Yeah, definitely going to help you to listen.
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You can just listen in the woods.
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And if he's patrolling around, you're going to hear him.
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Oh, my gosh, this guy's huge.
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Oh, oh, sorry.
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My bad.
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I thought for a second there he was going to aggro me.
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But just so you guys are aware in the stream, I've set myself to invulnerable so that we
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can kind of just walk near him and see his massive nature.
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And Doug, Jason, talk to me a little bit about the inspiration for this guy as a character
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model.
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What were you guys working with the character teams to kind of...
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I noticed he has this massive tree.
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Talk to me a little bit about that element.
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Yeah, I think that was actually a little bit improvised in the design based on what the
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character came back with, Jason, if you want to talk about that.
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Yeah, when the character artists were making this, they had this cool idea of just having
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this giant tree weapon that a cyclops would hold.
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And we took that idea and just kind of embraced it, making it part of his character and the
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embellishments that he wears and using that to kind of inform what type of encounter that
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he might be.
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So, you know, making the tree like a pretty core part of it and it informs some of his
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combat abilities and phase transitions even in the fight.
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Yeah, I mean, it's a collaborative process.
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Sometimes it's design asking for something specific from art and sometimes art is what
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informs the design.
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So...
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Oh, he looks great.
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Character did a great job with this.
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Do you know who's the character artist that worked on this?
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Was it Keith?
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I think it might have been Keith.
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I think it was Keith or it could have been GenC or somebody.
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Yeah, they did a great job, by the way.
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I mean, it looks phenomenal.
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I know we have a couple of parties that are going to assist us with this particular fight.
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Talk to me a little bit about this encounter as a raid boss.
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You know, what is the expectation from the actual raid size that you guys are anticipating
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for the design?
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I think that's going to vary depending on the level of the raid, obviously, and then
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sort of how geared they are.
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But we're kind of aiming for somewhere between, you know, 16 and 32, probably, depending again
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on level of equipment.
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Very cool.
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So, this guy's a really early kind of world boss and we want to introduce players early
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to the idea of these raids.
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And by the way, as we're kind of chatting about this, those of you who are going to
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be helping us defeat this guy with our two parties, if you want to start heading over
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to the arena, we are waiting here for you.
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I will set myself off of the GM and vulnerability here.
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Let me see.
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There we go.
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Hopefully, I don't aggro him.
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You know, it's important as we were talking about to kind of introduce players into what
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raiding really means in Ashes and talk to me a little bit about kind of the general
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design approach that you take with creating these types of encounters.
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You know, there are obviously phases, there's different elements in those phases that kind
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of change dynamically the way you want players to interact.
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What are we going to see here a little bit?
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Yeah, this is definitely like a more introductory raiding experience.
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So it's not going to be too complicated, but I think there are some really interesting
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mechanics regardless.
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And I think Jason can talk about those.
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Yeah, so when I first started designing this guy, you know, we had Trab and the other guys
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on the archetype team looking at, you know, forming the classes that people have been
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seeing over the live stream.
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And you know, really before those kind of come to fruition and knowing what the full
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abilities are and everything, I started the design with the core Trinity in mind.
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So the roles are very obvious.
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Tanks will tank, healers will heal, and DPS will try to take down the targets that they
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need to.
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And starting from there, I try to keep that in mind, not to overcomplicate it so that
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they always have that like individual Trinity idea amongst the different mechanics.
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Yeah, so we've got some classic staples in here.
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We've got, you know, adds that off tanks are going to have to peel off and crowd control
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that's going to need to be applied to those adds.
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We've got priority targets that are going to pop up that need to be killed.
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We've got, you know, damage that's going to be unavoidable so that, you know, even with
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the expert group that can dodge all of his avoidable attacks, you know, the healers are
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still going to have work to do to keep everyone alive.
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Very cool.
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Very cool.
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Love it.
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You guys will notice, obviously on the stream that there have been some updates to a little
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bit of the name plates that Colby and the UI team have implemented as well as some of
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the targeting plates as well.
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But who do we have as our tank today?
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That would be me.
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Doug will be tanking.
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Doug will be tanking.
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All right.
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All right.
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Very cool.
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And then we also have, I'll be playing as a mage, but I will be trying to capture some
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good shots of the encounter to a degree.
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Trad, what are you playing?
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I am a mage as well, just like you.
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Oh, okay.
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Very cool.
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And then how about you, Jason?
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I'm playing the cleric.
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Nice.
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Well, Doug, I don't want to stand in the way of your greatness.
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So please, by all means, sir, you may commence when ready.
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All right.
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Leroy Jenkins.
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Leroy, let's do this.
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Yeah, they're trying not to let me die, Jason.
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Yeah.
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No promises.
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Oh, he's an angry Tumac.
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Oh, my God.
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That looks like it hurts.
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Yeah.
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If you don't block that, you get smushed.
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I love his animation.
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So talk to me a little bit about some of these attacks.
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What do you got going on here, Jason and Doug?
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So yeah, his first phase here, he has a lot of physical attacks, but he also employs a
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lot of attacks using his tree like we see there with the roots hitting us.
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And right now you can see he's also he's pulling some fungus out of the tree and using that
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to heal himself.
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He has a tank spike attack where he smashes the tree into the tank that Doug was blocking
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earlier and generally does a lot of like a splash damage that other melee will want to
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avoid not stand together.
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Yeah, he's not particularly complex raid boss, but he's a great example of sort of what we
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want to do with large creatures and ashes, having them interact with the environment,
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having that camera shake that, you know, those knockdowns that make it feel like he is here
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and he is crushing you.
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Oh, he looks.
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Oh, my God.
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He keeps his charging there.
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I'm just barely missing him.
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Now talk to me a little bit about kind of the raid boss designs like you guys are working
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with multiple stages.
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I notice that right now he's just kind of, you know, roaming around.
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He has different targets on his hate list.
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Tell me, like, what's your general philosophy?
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How did you guys approach this?
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Yeah, so I think Jason did this a little bit earlier, but we designed this boss pretty
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early on when a lot of the classes were still sort of nascent form.
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So we really just wanted to focus on the whole the Trinity, you know, making sure that everyone
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has a purpose in this raid, a role, whether you're someone who's focused on CC, whether
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you're a tank, a healer, DPS, you know, giving those classic mechanics to give everybody
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a job in the raid.
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Like right now, for instance, he's put this tree down and there are going to be these
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healing caps that appear and those are going to be a priority objective for DPS to take
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down before they grow to full size, because if they do, he's going to go over, he's going
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to stomp them and he's going to get healed for a huge percentage of his health.
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Wow.
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So we got to take this tree out because he's just going to keep healing.
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Yeah.
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And you definitely got to switch over to those healing caps when they appear.
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That's super cool.
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So he heals off of the mushrooms as well.
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Yeah.
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And as a player, if you destroy them or even if he stomps on them, if you happen to be
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nearby when they blow up, you can get that heal as well.
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So if you're taking some damage from the thorns from the tree or you got hit by one of his
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large, you know, stomp attacks, you know, you might have a chance to get healed up if
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you run over to those mushrooms before they blow up.
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Okay.
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We almost have this tree down.
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Come on guys, focus it down.
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Focus major DPS on the tree.
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Let's try to kill this thing.
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It's almost done.
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Get it, get it before he picks it up.
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Yes.
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Everything release it all.
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Oh, well done.
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Oh, oh my God.
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Why is he so mad?
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He does not like when you break his weapon.
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What the heck?
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I mean, who would?
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Jason, where'd you get the idea for that, for the kind of tree totem?
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A lot of that came from the original design that we got from character art and that we
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really enjoyed the way that it synergized with his looks.
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We wanted to employ the use of the tree as like a core part of his encounter.
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We ended up using it as like a magical tree where he gets a lot of his abilities.
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But without that, he seems to get really mad and his more primal Cyclops giant nature comes
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back as we see here.
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Oh, that's cool.
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So talk to me about those kinds of slams that he's doing.
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And also I noticed like as he's running around, the trees are falling, the stone obelisks
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are kind of getting destroyed.
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Is there intent for these kind of environmental hazards to exist as well as part of the raid
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design?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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For our large creatures, you know, Cyclopses, dragons, things like that, we want to make
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sure that the world feels dynamic and it's reacting to their big size.
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You know, if a huge, you know, 20 meter tall beast is walking through the woods and not
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knocking down a single tree, that just doesn't feel believable.
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So we want to make sure that, you know, you're going to hear that and that's going to be
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a way you can know in the distance there's something that you want to go and investigate.
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That is super cool.
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I died, but I'm on my way back.
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Those slams hurt really bad.
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One of the aspects of the phases in this fight is actually that he has those healing abilities
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when he has his totem tree, his nature magic, but, and he is more primal when he's in this
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phase.
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As a result, you can take him down a little quicker when he's enraged, but it's also going
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to be a lot more incoming damage for your healers to work through.
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So depending on your raid composition, your, you know, equipment level, you might want
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to sustain longer in that earlier phase, even if it takes a while through all that healing,
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because if you push him too early, you might just wipe.
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Oh, I love it guys.
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Here he goes again.
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Oh, I was getting crushed there.
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I was right under his fists.
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Oh, this poor guy.
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Look at him.
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His little eye.
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Wow.
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That was very cool.
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Well done guys.
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That was awesome.
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Does he have any loot?
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Can we loot him?
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I wonder.
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Sword of the Briar home, a longbow, a shortbow and a mace.
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Ooh, very nice.
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Well that was a lot of fun.
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Very well done.
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I thought that that was very cool.
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Guys, as you guys are watching this, remember, obviously this is one of the earliest world
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bosses in Ashes of Creation that you'll have an opportunity to encounter.
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It's getting your feet wet and what the raid boss system is going to look like.
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We have a lot of fun designs that are intended with a lot of different creatures, but give
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us your feedback.
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What are the raid bosses you enjoyed in other games that you've played?
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What about the mechanics?
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What about the phases that you thought were cool?
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What did you enjoy seeing here today?
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And what would you like to see in the future?
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But otherwise, Trad, Jason, Doug, thank you guys for joining us and giving us a little
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sneak peek under the hood of the encounter design, particularly as it relates to Tumak,
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the Wretched.
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I thought that that was super cool, a lot of fun, and I look forward to seeing more
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from you guys in the future.
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But with that being said, I would like to thank you all and we will see everyone back
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on stream here in just a moment.
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Thanks for having us.
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Bye everybody.
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Good time.
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See ya.